7 Responses to AppSense User Virtualization & Citrix XenDesktop 5.5 better together. Get your protocol fix then focus on HDX.

  1. Andrew Wood says:

    An interesting read. I don’t think “the post PC Era is upon us” – I think “the more than just a PC era is upon us”. Its not as catchy for sure, but the PC isn’t and won’t be dead for some time, no matter how high a height HP drop it from

  2. Harry Labana says:

    Andrew, I don’t disagree a long tail of PCs as we know them to day is around for a long time. However the PC and Windows will also evolve no doubt. This will take time, but I have no doubt having had the opportunity to speak with so many customers that they are actively looking for ways to embrace. Just take the simple example of DropBox. Who is not using it for work and play if they are really honest? I’d say that’s already here and problem for many as an example of type of disruption that is already taking place.

  3. Andrew Wood says:

    But the goal with Dropbox (and its clones) is focused on doc storage, but what doc storage isn’t user virtualization.

    You know that your workspace is more than just a set of applications: it’s your data and your applications presented wherever you are working from (be that a pc, a notebook, a netbook, your tablet, your smartphone, your tv, your games console, the public access kiosk etc.)

    In a business environment this has an impact as businesses move towards a greater mobility – not just working from home/outside the office.. or not, but in that companies (need to) embrace the concept that a user will not sit at a desk, each day, every day. If they spend 20 mins each day logging on and getting their proverbial desktop gonks set-up, that’s wasted productivity. UV is targeted at fixing that. Of course, the UV goal would be to do what DropBox have done and target enterprise & consumer

    In order to get UV to work, there needs to be storage that can be deployed to a range of devices. An interesting issue I think with dropbox et al is that it shows that a pure model of web-based storage is cumbersome in many respects. An issue with web-based storage (such as (say) Huddle, or 365 Sharepoint, or Google Docs) is that you have to go to the site to get the documents. Dropbox-Clones offer the documents in your workspace directly; sync seamlessly.

    But beyond storage, UV needs to offer an abstraction so that you can incorporate all that is available in your “now” environment. User data is relatively straightforward (Dropbox-esque), but what about user applications moving? Application settings moving? Ideally, those applications are abstracted to a web based service. So, rather than (say) MS Money being installed every time you sit at a device to do your accounts, you use something like Google Apps and plug into Yendo Accounts, or Xero or Brightperl. But, you take (again) the Dropbox concept of ‘you can install a component locally if you like (for greater control, for additional features), but if needs be you’ve a web based component to get 80% of the functionality’. Microsoft do that to an extent with 365 and the facility to install a full fat word/excel/outlook. However if this was played out fully is it that I need to have a huge follow-me profile if I wanted to move between devices in and outside of work.

    Ideally, app developers have a similar model for linux/windows as they do for iOS/Android – that they publish their application and that is architected to be portable. Windows 8 will have a windows app portal in apparently. Super ideally no one uses more than 640k to write their apps.

    What often bemuses me is that, while cloud offers the possibility of being cheaper and more dynamic – the actual implementations drive towards single service providers with ISV’s hanging on their eco-system. Its Apple or Google (or Microsoft) presenting an environment that app developers hang off of. I can see services being “out there” and accessible from a mobile perspective – but not mobile in themselves.

  4. Dave Lamb says:

    How many times do i hear the DropBox example. I don’t buy it. Would corporates really let their users use DropBox where data can be passed from the corporate network to cloud based storage and say “thats ok, no problem”? The other thing i hear is “your users are doing it now, you can’t stop them”. Wrong! we can stop users accessing DropBox from corporate desktops. We can stop users taking data away from the corporate network on USB drives.

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  6. Andrew Wood says:

    @dave – at no point does it say “use dropbox” I’m saying that the concept of having the ‘data’ of a user’s settings needs to be as readily pervasive as data delivered by a dropbox solution.

    I’m also not saying “you can’t use dropbox” to keep user settings in sync – you can; it just doesn’t work very well.

  7. Peter says:

    Funny and ironic that a company’s whose bread and butter is the PC market, would regurgitate a Steve Jobs-coined phrase (RIP) of “post Pc era”, coined in fact to sell iPads! Tablets and smartphones are accessories to the PC, not a replacement. The PC ain’t dead yet…

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